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Doctor Lachelle welcome to the show

I am so happy to have you on

thank you for being here will you introduce yourself

the audience my goodness

Alexa is so fun to be here with another boss mom right

like we're trying to make the world a better place

for ourselves for our kids

and I just love it so yeah

I am Doctor Michelle Wimi

and I have a formal education in anesthesia

have my doctor did anesthesia practice

and about 7 years ago

I had this entrepreneurial bug bite me

and I have been on a mission ever since

not only make myself the best virgin that I can be

but also helping other people discover what makes them

just light up whatever they are

are put on this planet to do

and to feel like they have been proving to themselves

everything they're capable of

and that's really my journey after

after a few years of doing that

alongside of my full time job and being mom and wife

I stepped away from my 20 year

anesthesia career to be a full time business owner

and it's been a wild freaking ride

let me tell you yeah

it's been it's been fun to help other people learn from

from my setbacks

from things that has taken me a little bit longer

to learn myself

so that I can help other moms create the life

they want to be able to do it faster

to make more money faster

to make more income impact faster

and ultimately they create more time right

cause that's what we want

we wanna be able to do what we want

what we want right

yeah definitely

that's amazing

so tell me about your family and your business

and when your business got started

how old your kids are give me the rundown

yes oh my goodness

so I have right now currently have a new driver

he's 15 year old boy um

just the love of my life he's such a sweet kid

and then I have an 11 year old daughter who is just

she's like a mini me

so it's been so much fun watching those two grow

and like I mentioned it's been almost seven years

so I was working what I considered at the time Alexa

my full time career was my dream job

I had wanted to become a nursing esthetist

and then a professor for a doctor more sanity program

that was like

the Pinnacle of what I wanted to do professionally

and I got there and I'm like yeah

something still missing like what's what's going on

and I started my first online business

and that is when I really felt like

my world went from black and white to color

I can explain that now that I know differently

I realize

going back to my ambition as a professional woman

and this is my journey right

but recognizing that I was chasing my own worth

hmm it's like I did not feel good inside

I didn't feel like I was good enough

I felt like I always had something to prove

and so I'd get another degree

and another degree and climb that ladder

and here I was the mom right

that was like tearing into the daycare center at like

one minute to close

hoping they weren't gonna charge me for it

yeah and I just realized that that's not what I wanted

but I also knew that I'm a better mom

when I have an outlet for my professional

that I want to be challenged

and when I started my first online business

I felt like it was the first glimpse into what I call

the and life

maybe

that I can find a way to be challenged and fulfilled

and make a difference in the world

and be more present mom and wife yes

that is what really LED me on this whole journey

and it was in that journey that I discovered the truth

right the truth is

holy crap I was really chasing my worth

the truth is yeah

is that I'm already worthy

and it was the entrepreneurial

journey that LED me to that insight

it's like personal development with a paycheck

don't you think yeah

definitely that's huge

yeah and so

I just feel like that's been

that's been the ride and nice

in that I get to be a better role model for my

for my daughter and for my son

and teach them what it's like to take risks

and to

teach them what it's like to go after your dreams

and to work hard and to trust God

and to to make it happen

and yeah

so that's that's kind of how all that started

that is amazing that is so cool

and I love that you talked about the

and life to do both

because I think that's so huge for us as moms

to acknowledge that we can and we should have both

I think we're the best version of ourselves

when we have both and I think the narrative

sometimes can feel like it's selfish or wrong

but really when you look at it

like use like

that self discovery that we find through our business

and that outlet that we have

is what gives us the ability to be the mom that

we want to be for our kids

and to show them

the life that they're dreaming of is possible as well

so I think that's so huge

it's so huge I mean

one of the exercises that I do with my clients

is to ask them like

what did you wanna be when you grow

when you were little right

and how many of us did not pursue that

but we want better for our daughters or yes

like yeah

they want as their little

I'm like I want to encourage that

but why is it okay for them and not for me

you think about relationships

just like okay

my relationship that I have with myself

or myself or whatever it's like

do I wish that on my kids

uh huh if the answer is no

then it is not good enough for you

it's not good enough for me

because

my best way to teach my kids is to model for them

what a strong woman does

what to model for them what self love is

to model for them

how I can give out of an outpouring of who I am

instead of a need and a codependency to

to have to prove something to myself right yeah

I think that that's the best way for us to do that

I used to feel like you said guilty

I remember going on a walk um

with my mother in law at the time

she's such a beautiful person

so this this is not a reflection of anything other than

that was just the generational

you know um

space that she was in

as well as just her own value system

and she's like

I'm really glad that I stayed home with kids

and I used to think there was something wrong with me

that I didn't want to do that

and I feel like once I found the end life

once I found the way that I get to choose both

it made me feel whole because I'm like

oh my gosh like I wasn't missing out on anything

and definitely there were times

right where I was out of balance

out of sync

and I figured out some ways to make that better

yeah but for me

I know that I'm a better mom because I have an outlet

I know that I am a better business owner because I have

you know why that drives me right exactly

and so all of it fits perfectly well together

but I had to be able to accept that this is my journey

and I get to choose what my journey is

so yeah

I love that I think what you said to

about like how we show up

and the life that we want our kids to have

has been such a driving force for me as well

I think the

the boundaries that I've set in my life that

you know maybe before weren't so strong

I wasn't as strong in those boundaries

I have felt like this need to be just really like

stand up for myself because I'm thinking like

what am I showing my kids like right now

obviously they're so little

they don't know but like I need to

to work the muscle that is setting boundaries

and expecting better for myself now

so

by the time they're old enough to see what's going on

they can know that like oh mom

you know mom stood up for herself

she you know

took took the initiative to do whatever it is

you know whether it's um

eliminating toxic relationships

other starting a business

any of those things like

to show them what I'm willing to tolerate

so that they can talk like

set the same standards for themselves

because I absolutely and I think that so often times

we think of business and our personal life is separate

but when I have by good business going

I'm better personally have good personal life 100% yeah

they feed up one another and you know

one of the things that I have found this is um

part of my my process that I take people through

I have seven core seasons

what I call them

that are solid foundations for her massive success

my whole my whole program is all about mass

afford momentum with ease and flow

and

when we recognize the subconscious beliefs

that are the drivers behind what we are doing

what we're not doing

it really does impact the way that we show up

and when it comes to being a mom

I think that it's

it's important that we understand that for ourselves

but also how is impacting our kids

because a lot of people don't realize that

the subconscious beliefs that we hold

most of them

were actually formed before we're 7 years old wow

and so I'm can I give you an example

yes this is an example not to say whole crap

like I'm gonna ruin my kids

this is an example of there's nothing wrong with you

if this is something that you're dealing with

but once we know better we can do better

and we can get a slightly better situation for okay

so um

I I wrote about this in my book

and this would be an example right

so my mom she got married when she was 20

she had me when she was 21 by the time she was 25

she had three kids under the age of five

like I cannot imagine right

and she lived we lived out on the farm

my dad was a farmer and it was the middle of nowhere

and so like

I can't imagine just how hard life was with her

basically having to raise the three of us on our own

with my dad working so much yeah

and I want you to imagine that

we had to go to the grocery store

and it was a 30 minute drive one way

so she packs up three kids under 5

takes us 30 minutes to town

you know

going through the grocery store with three little kids

gotta be exhausting right

so imagine that she gets up to the counter

know this is the 1980s

so she's getting out her checkbook right

and she's gonna pay and I'm sure that money was tight

so it was stressful enough

and I'm sure that it was hard to do

all of the things that she needs to do

with three of us and and knowing that she had

you know unload and reload and all the things

it was probably a really stressful situation

so if you can imagine me

it's oldest at 5 years old at the counter saying mom

mom mom mom mom yeah

because the candy is perfectly placed in my eye level

yeah oh yeah

and I'm sure that in

in her like just natural exacerbation of the situation

she's like no

like you do not deserve that like yeah

I've been a good girl

because I was probably restless and

you know running around and yeah things

and so when you're a kid

your subconscious can only accept it cannot reject

and so you're you're told something

and then it through emotion

goes into your subconscious

and it forms a belief

and a belief is basically what we think about

the world and how we fit in it okay

so my little brain is

developed enough to be able to accept that

but doesn't have enough brain power

to have context around it

so my little tiny 5 year old brain can't say

mom is just really overwhelmed

yeah my sister was crying the whole time

and she does wants to get out of here

that's not what my brain you know

knew how to look at it so my brain says okay

I am not a good girl so

I need to start doing people pleasing activities

in order to be a good girl

my little brain says

I don't deserve that or I don't deserve nice things

and therefore now I'm an adult

and I struggle charging for my services

or I struggle accepting help

um help from others or I have codependent

you know behaviors and people pleasing

because I am trying to prove my work

that makes sense yeah

yeah that's

you know just so insightful

yeah and so it's like when we know that

we can start to accept like okay

maybe there's nothing wrong with me

and I'm just a normal person that yeah

normal things happen to me

um but it also helps us to

to recognize like gosh

how can I really empower my kids

how can I be them benefit

from all the personal development that I've Learned

by being a business owner exactly

exactly

make this learning curve a little less steep for that

definitely yeah

I love that you share that story

and I think that's so interesting because

you know that you could tie it to that one experience

and you could say I can see where this happened

and it resulted in me thinking like this

like I think that's just so impactful as

you know someone who has struggled with

a lot of the things that you spoke about

I have a really hard time remembering a lot

of my childhood so talk me through

what would be a good spot for me to start

if I don't have a specific memory

but I wanna work through yeah

so I did take my client through a

kind of a one on one session to help

to explore these memories that are hidden

but I use things that are

that are different

I have a very unique secret sauce of quantum physics

brain science and scripture

so I utilized my my connection to higher power

with the sustainable

things that we can use with brain science

and quantum physics and so

one of the things that I would do is

have you tap into feeling that you're having right

so maybe you are maybe we're talking about um

you know

you're afraid to charge people for your services

I get that a lot people have money mindset blocks right

but really where the heck did this come from

or I had a client the other day

um who we were talking and she's like gosh

I really have this block on receiving

she's like receiving help receiving money

like if there was a black with that

but yeah it's kind of the same thing

she's like oh my gosh

I don't remember I don't know where this came from yeah

and so I had her just focus on where the feeling was

and the feeling in her body

because people don't realize it

but because her thoughts inner feelings are energy

if those thoughts and feelings aren't processed

adequately they can become stuck

as kind of watered up balls of energy

inside of our body interesting yeah

so if I were to ask you to

think about something that upset you

most people if you were kind of giving yourself some

some space can say yep

I feel it in my stomach or I feel it in my chest

or I feel it in my throat

or my shoulders or the back of my head

so I have them focus on where they feel it

and then I just asked him

I want you to think back at a time that you remember

feeling that same way okay

wow right

and and that allows sometimes for that memory to

to protect itself sometimes people are still stuck

right like

our body

and our subconscious tries to protect ourselves

and so this is where I bring in kind of my spirituality

I'm like this is where I ask our higher power

to join us on this journey

and safely reveal the thing that we have to remember

and you know

it was so fascinating

because in this process that I took her through

she was able to come up with this core memory of

being a kid and a baby that was next to her

fell off of a table or a couch or something

and she got blamed for it

oh my gosh she's

you know like

I didn't touch the baby but everybody's like you

you know how did you let this happen or whatever

and so she picked up at that moment

a belief

that she is responsible for everybody around her

wow

that's amazing that you are able to help her find that

like yes

and our beliefs are really just

the lens in which you will see the world

which is so interesting like our belief again

is how we see the world

and it's how we fit in the world

and our brain this is brain science stuff

our brain is not

you don't believe what you see is actually

you see what you believe

your brain will only look for things

in the outside world that will prove itself right okay

yeah so over time

she had a belief that she was responsible

for everybody else and then um

in her outside world

things would present as evidence of that yeah

to where

that was just an ingrained way that the world was right

yeah and so

of course she had a hard time receiving

because she had been so in doctrine

to think that she was responsible for everybody else

that she couldn't possibly have somebody else

be responsible for her

yeah that's amazing that you're able to discover

that is such a huge thing that I've dealt with too

is like you know

I know I have these issues right

whatever they may be right

struggling with certain things

but trying to figure out where they're coming from

can feel so hard and so

I love how you you know

help people get there

and guide them to feel comfortable

to get to that space and take the time to uncover it

and then to really like

unload and unpack what that actual memory means for us

and how it connects to what we're feeling now

and um yeah

I just think the work you're doing is really insane

we are given a set of resources

unlike any other generation before

I scroll on Instagram and what do I see

parenting tips mom tips

tips how to be a better wife

how to be a better business owner

how to talk to my kids better

how to potty train better

I mean you name it

it's there right at my fingertips

I'm not even looking for it

and I'm seeing it where I think about our parents

and they didn't know better

I mean they really just

didn't have the same opportunities

to have the conversations that we do

they didn't have the access to resources like we do

I mean I'm sure there was parenting books

but I don't even I I listen audible in my car

I don't sit down and read a book very often

but I have all of those resources

you know so available to me

and so I think to fully you know

utilize that to be better for our kids

that's huge and I think it's so yeah

so special

that we get to kind of learn on this journey together

to be better for them and to be a tramp

we call it a trance absolutely

and you know

one thing I'm gonna can I piggyback off of that thought

yeah is that one of the things that I see

a lot of my clients like especially high level clients

even that they've like

built like seven figure businesses

still struggle with making important decisions

sometimes and what I found is

there's a correlation between people

having an inability to make a decision

when they were little

they weren't allowed to make decisions

or they were taught that they

had to rely on somebody else to tell them what to do

instead of having the

empowerment to make small decisions

and so therefore subconsciously

they don't trust their own discernment

and and when you talk about

all of the resources that we have available to us right

it's like it's so easy to say well

I'm just gonna read one more

book one more Instagram post

I'm gonna listen one more podcast

and then I'll know what to do

instead of recognizing that

you already have it within you yeah

like I believe so much in my

in my theology that like my higher power

my higher self I have access to anytime I want to

and I can trust that

I already know the answers within me

and I think that when we have so many resources

and when we're talked to in a way when we're little to

to question

whether or not we have the ability to make decisions

it can really keep us stuck

and yeah it's a confusion and decision

and so it's like yeah

we have all of these resources and yeah

we happen to make this decision on our own

exactly right exactly

and I just love the hand like right

and so

having your kids make little decisions here and there

it's gonna help them to build those muscles

and that confidence say

I got this like

I don't know that like it's just a bonus

so definitely yeah

I love that you shared that

I think that's huge and definite

to kind of juggle within this

you know information decade that we live in

of just so much to consume

and then at some point to trust what we've consumed

and do the best that we can

because I think that's you know

the other part of it is we're all doing the best we can

and you know

I think if we have the intention of acting with love

and with you know

the desire to show up the best version of ourselves

for our kids for our spouses

for businesses you know

I think that just

that intention is a huge piece of the puzzle

that we don't give ourselves enough credit for

as moms I think

you know

it's one of those things that is so easily overlooked

all the little things that we do and

you know where our hearts at

even if we don't always get it right

that we're here we're showing up

we're trying if you're listening to this podcast

you're trying to be a better mom

you're trying to be a better business at a right

like that's why we're all consuming what we consume

and reading what we read and doing what we do

and I think that just you know

it's so easy to look at our failures and flaws and say

okay I'm struggling

but it's like if you flip that and say

I'm doing so much good you know

there's so much good I think that's a huge piece of it

so um yeah

I love everything that you're sharing with that

so talk to me about how you landed in this space

I mean how did you go from anesthesiology

you said online business

and now you're here kicking butt and taking names

talking about all the things that happen in our mind

so give me give me the break the other yeah

I think that part of it is just I'm a nerd

and so like I Learned stuff and I'm like

why does that work that way

like I don't know like is it just BS their feed me

or is there science behind it

and so yeah

I think that's really where it started you know

building that online business initially

really did

force me into some massive personal development

like Alexa I will tell you that again

my professional ambitions were

subconsciously to prove my own worth right

and here I was like in my first online business space

and facing rejection on purpose on the daily like

holy crap right

like that that was terrifying

and that's actually why I

my kids will automatically like

they already know

they're gonna get some type of a sales job eventually

teaches us resiliency and rejection and communication

and how to read people like things are like life

life lessons right yeah

but I think that it was just like what I

I was just learning and evolving

and the more that I would learn

the more I wanted to know more about it

and the more people would ask me like Michelle

how is it that you're doing what you're doing

I mean I when I started that first online business

I was in the top 2% of the company's pay plan within 9

10 months and people were like

how are you doing that

when I went from like being a super

super introverted awkward

like I don't

I have 200 friends on Facebook

I didn't know your mom

you didn't know my business kind of thing

and having to like

face that rejection over and over again

and I they saw such growth in me

that I think they wanted to know like

what was I doing and how was I doing it

yeah and I also

with my academic um

and professional career I

I did a lot of research and so

one of the

giftings that I was able to come from that experience

was doing quantitative and quality of research

I could see themes and things

and I was noticing that success

really did follow a pattern

and yeah

people that were successful were doing certain things

people that were

were struggling were missing certain things

or allowing certain things to win

and I just became fascinated by that

and now it's so funny

because I have people in so many different industries

I have coaches and physical therapist

and Realtors and network marketers and

I mean anybody who wants to

to grow especially in the online space

but the foundational things

the themes that I've noticed are

are consistent no matter what

and I think that's what sense of fun is

that allowing all of the pieces of my life puzzle yeah

to come together to formulate where I'm supposed

to be like nothing is wasted

you guys if you feel like you're not in the right space

like it will be a piece of your puzzle

if you allow it to be and it's like some people like

gosh the show

you went to school for a long time and now you're

you know don't even

like I do anesthesia once a month

just because I like doing it

and yeah I help out a small um immigrant

you know hospital because I love it

but it's like that's not where I'm going

and it's like

everything that we do can be perfectly put together

precisely the way that it's supposed to

and so that's what I want people to just understand

is that none of your experiences are wasted

and what skills do you have

what experiences do you have

how can you help people

who are one or two steps behind where you are

get to where you are

and I think that's where a lot of people come in as

oh my gosh like

I don't know if I'm qualified

or I don't have the experience

or I don't have this degree

or I don't have all the fancy

and it's like you don't have to yeah

you start with yeah

grab what you have

and help the person two steps behind you

I wanna give you like an amen

I wanna like give you a church choir like amen

Hallelujah in there cause I think that is just like

so perfect a summary of what I like

preach to like what I've been living by too

because I feel like

it's so easy to look back a few years and say

oh my gosh where was I going

why was I doing that you know

like it didn't make sense

and now once I hear in this space

it's like oh

I see where it all makes sense right

like I had to go through that

I had to learn that I had to start that business

I had to fail there to make it to where I am today

and it all makes sense now

but when you're in that season

it's like what the heck am I doing

and it's so frustrating sometimes

so I love that you share that

because I think that is just like any entrepreneur

anyone with an entrepreneurial mindset

just needs to keep that in mind

when they're in the trenches

because we all go through it

we all get to a place I mean

if you're growing you're gonna fail

like that's just how it goes

if you're moving forward

there's gonna be bumps in the road

but that means you're moving

you know it means you're not just sitting stagnant

so if you're in that season and you're listening right

like keep going you're going somewhere that matters

and it's gonna all make sense at me 100% like

you know and that's the whole point Alexis

Alexa is that like my business my my mate

my signature program called Spiral Up right

and I want to it's basically success in motion

like I want

people have massive forward momentum in their business

that doesn't mean

that we don't have moments of downward spiral yeah

all of us do

I don't care if you're making seven figures

or if you haven't started your business yet yeah

things like comparison or you know

you get rejected or you know

you have a little bit of confusion

like it can cause you to start to downward spiral

what I want you guys to all understand is that

that happens to all of us yeah

but yeah what your goal is

is to catch yourself in the

in the downward spiral so that you can stop

and then redirect yourself to spiral back up

and so yes it's gonna sometimes feel like you're taking

three steps forward two steps back

but the point is that

as long as you're continuing to make some

forward momentum

you're gonna get to go where you need to go yeah

by catching yourself it's by acknowledging like okay

yeah I totally face this imposter syndrome before

but

look at how much more I've Learned from the last time

and I'm gonna be able to catch it

and I'm gonna be able to redirect it even faster

and then I'll be able to get back on my feet again

right and so don't we are so freaking hard on ourselves

and we compare ourselves to people when really

if I want you guys to think about this

like

you aren't going to remember when you're at step 15

what it was like to be at step two

yeah the best people to help

the people at step two are the people at step three

and four because it's freshen your mind yeah

it's just like

grab a sister by the arm and drag her along with you

and yes don't don't negate what you know

it's you don't have to have all the fancy

you just help the people who are right behind you and

and it's gonna help with all the

the board momentum for sure yes

oh my gosh Michelle

that's amazing you are so great

I have loved this conversation

you're so fun

I love your energy and I love all the work you're doing

I just think it's so impactful

and so integral for entrepreneurs

and moms to keep in mind when they're on their journey

um no matter what what part of their journey they're at

know what your sharing is just so relevant

so for the listers that want to connect with you

and learn more about what you offer

where can they find you tell me about your yeah

oh my gosh of course

so I can't keep everything really simple

I'm branded as doctor well

actually I branded as Le shall we me

and so you can find me at Le shall we

com on Le shall we Facebook Instagram YouTube LinkedIn

I don't know TikTok like all the things right

so just just find my be by my name and yeah

so that's kind of that the main thing

what I wanna do is give you guys all some hope right

like I'm a hope dealer that's what I wanna be

I wanna help you understand that

you are freaking more capable than you ever realize

and what I'm finding is that

it doesn't matter what industry you're in

it doesn't matter if you

have tried this strategy or that strategy

it's really just working on those fundamental

things inside of you

that are gonna help any strategy work

and often times what happens is we don't get results

and so we're like okay

well I just need to get a new script

or I just need to get this new

you know client relations manager

I just need to get this new program

and then we find the same thing keeping happening

and so what I wanna do is just to remind you guys

that there are some

very core things that are going to carry you

and you're modeling for your family

over and over again

and that's really what I specialize in

it's I can teach you business strategy all day long

but it's who you are underneath that

that's executing it

that's going to determine whether you're successful or

not and so if you are like kind of wondering like gosh

do do I have some of those blocks

do I have

some of the things that are preventing me from

from getting where I wanna go

God would love for you to to

to go to my website so Michelle we meet.com

I have a quiz on there that will help you to determine

like

where some of the areas that you're self sabotaging

and then what you can do to get yourself

out of that hole and back spiraling up again

so I wanna make sure that you guys know that

that you have that resource for me

um I talk a lot about it inside of my book called

Get Out of God's Way get over yourself

and step into

the life and business he has in store for you

and I have a spiral up podcast that's also really fun

just to keep people in massive ort momentum

so so amazing

oh my goodness well

thank you so much for being here

thank you for being part of the community

I will link um

the quiz and the show notes

as well as all your links in your website

so um

I'm sure listeners would love to connect with you

and I'm just so excited to have you as part of the

community I think amazing

you're an amazing resource to

women and business owners everywhere

so thank you for being here

thank you thanks

you too Alexa

it's so fun to

thanks for joining us

on this episode of Mom Boss Central

I hope you found inspiration

encouragement and maybe even a few new strategies

to rock your mom boss journey

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we're all in this together

and

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until next time

keep pursuing your passions and living authentically

we're so happy to have you as part of the Mamba

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